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littl3chocobo 07-03-2011 07:10 AM

covers versus originals
 
have you ever heard this great song then after finding out it was a cover tried to find the original? after finding and listening to have you ever thought to yourself 'wow this sucks so much, i like the cover better'?

i have had this happen a few times, namly the song 'what's going on' by four non blondws, the cover was great it was fun and upbeat and rediculous and just over-all awesome but the original song was so ...bad i couldn't even finish it

what about you guys? have a song like that? what was it called and who were the singers

johnny 07-03-2011 09:54 AM

I think you might have mistakenly gotten the wrong song. I looked it up on wikipedia and it said that the 4 Non Blondes song "What's Up?" was often mistakenly titled "What's Going On?", which is a famous and wonderful song by the great Marvin Gaye.

"What's Up" was never a cover song.

littl3chocobo 07-03-2011 10:12 AM

so they are a cover too?

it was parodied, the version i have it the 'he man says hey' version

Quiet Man Cometh 07-03-2011 06:59 PM

I preferred the Limb Bizkit version of "Behind Blue Eyes" when I first heard it. I didn't realize it was a cover until I heard the song on the radio that turned out to also be a cover. The original was sung by "The Who" I believe and it just felt odd to hear their pacing in the song versus what I was used to from hearing Limb Bizkit.

Another cover that I'm fond of is Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt." He changes it a little compared to the original by Nine Inch Nails but I think he does a good job. I wouldn't say the original sucks at all, but the tone is different. NIN's version sounds more raunchy and the mood comes off as more sinister or desperate, while Cash's version seems more nostalgic and resigned. I heard someone say it was a fitting song for him to sing given his past.

Another cover which I've heard dozens of times is "Hallalujah." The first time I heard it was in Shrek which I think is the Rufus Wainright version. I really like it then. After learning it was a cover I searched out some of the other artists. The original was Leonard Cohen, and he has a very drawn out, sort of quirky way of singing it that makes the song take sages. I like it though. Of the ones I've heard, I'd say I prefer Jeff Buckly's the best since it's more melodic than Cohen's but is closer to his version than those by Wainright and K.D. Lang. I think Lang did a great job singing it but some of the lyrics shifted and I'm not as fond of the changes.

Apparently The Fugee's "Killing me Softly" is a cover but I've never heard the original.

Rem 07-03-2011 07:51 PM

Hurt is definitely a cover for me that's ten times better than the original...not that the original is a bad song, it's just...Cash brings a lot more gravitas to the song, makes it a little more solid than the NIN version...at least for me, it resonates more. It's just beautiful.
Trent Reznor said it wasn't his song anymore either, haha. That was really an awesome thing.

Whitney Houston's version of I Will Always Love You was ten times more popular than the original (Dolly Parton sang that one) ...although I personally didn't really enjoy either >u> But that was one that was way bigger.

what I love is thinking a song belongs to a certain artist and then learning it's actually a cover, and it ends up being like one of their most well known songs...
Like did you know Along the Watchtower ws a Bob Dylan song first? I DID NOT. I was like oh yea that's Jimi Hendrix's song all the way

I ah ...
I also like the Alien Ant Farm version of Smooth Criminal |D;;; [/brick'd]

Quiet Man Cometh 07-03-2011 07:59 PM

I like the video, mostly because of the kid. ;). The light-up squares also came from MJ's video for "Billy Jean." I think I still like Jackson's version of "Smooth Criminal" better than AAF though, but then it might also be that I'm used to his vocals or prefer them to AAF.

A cover I do prefer is one of Eleanor Rigby (though I can't remember who did it) over the Beatles version, which may also be a cover for all I know. Apparently they have a few.

johnny 07-04-2011 10:09 AM

the Beatles only did old rock and roll covers in the beginning of their career. I believe the last album that featured covers was "Beatles For Sale" in 1964. "Eleanor Rigby" certainly was not a cover song.


for the record, I think much of the "covers versus originals" opinion has more to do with which song a person hears first rather than which song is legitimately, musically better.

littl3chocobo 07-04-2011 10:25 AM

killing me softly is a cover? huh, never new, wainwrite's ver is the only one i like hahaha

don't think i've heard 'along the watch tower' though i don't like either of those artists so i suppose it make sense

johnny has a point very few of the songs i hear first sound worse than the second or third version

Athilea Majiri 07-04-2011 11:40 AM

I have found a son that I thought the cover was better then then original. I don't think the original sucks, though. It's just hard to beat Johnny Cash for the feeling that man can put into his music.

The song it Hurt, which was originally done by Nine Inch Nails.

Here is the cover Johnny Cash did shortly before he died:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o22eIJDtKho

Here is the original by NIN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0bZtf5MCzY

littl3chocobo 07-04-2011 12:45 PM

someone else liked it too


what are those pants sweetie? they look neat

Quiet Man Cometh 07-04-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny (Post 737775)
for the record, I think much of the "covers versus originals" opinion has more to do with which song a person hears first rather than which song is legitimately, musically better.

'Chronological preference' I call that. I think that has much to do with it too, in most cases. I think it's that way with "Behind Blue Eyes" but I genuinely prefer the other versions of "Hallaluja" despite hearing Wainright's first.

Yokuutsu 07-19-2011 01:52 AM

I've had incidents where I liked the original more.

And ones where I liked them both the same-Smooth Criminal by Michael Jackson and Alien Ant Farm.

Fiyero 07-20-2011 02:38 AM

I very seldom like covers better than the original. I generally don't much listen to covers, but Greta (from The Hush Sound)'s new band Gold Motel, did a cover of Hellogoodbye's "Here in Your Arms"...SO good.

Holly 07-20-2011 02:50 AM

I've heard a quite a few really good covers.
But I generally prefer the original.

Quiet Man Cometh 07-20-2011 03:45 AM

That in most cases, Holly?

I find it hard to imagine avoiding covers since one would need to know what is a cover in the first place. Not everyone knows that. I've met people who don't realize that "Halleluja" by anyone other than Leonard Cohen (I believe) is a cover, or that American Pie was Don Mclean before it was Madonna (again, I think). The cover is only a few years old.

I find I prefer it when there is something different added to cover with the new artist than if it's pretty much the same. "Hurt" is a good example of that with the intruments and tempo being different in both songs with changes the mood a fair bit. On the other hand, ther versions of "Paint it Black" that I've heard all tend to sound more or less the same.

johnny 07-20-2011 11:34 AM

I really don't think it's possible for anyone to say "I always prefer the original over the cover" or "I always prefer the cover over the original"

I think Madonna's cover of "American Pie" is a travesty, an assault on mankind and good taste, and no one could ever convince me otherwise.

John Cale's cover of "Hallelujah" - and, in fact, many of the covers of that song, which is so beautiful that I think it actually transcends whatever artist sings it - is as good as the original, though I prefer Leonard Cohen's strange poetry-singing for some reason (I should note, I heard John Cale's version before Cohen's).

Limp Bizkit's cover of "Behind Blue Eyes"? Another horrible, horrible thing.

Richie Havens's cover of "Here Comes The Sun"? Beautiful. I actually prefer it over the original Beatles version, and I am probably the biggest Beatles fan anyone on this site will talk to.

I agree with Quiet Man Cometh: the good covers are the ones that add something new to the song. A new emotion, a new stanza of lyrics (in the case of "Hallelujah", which tends to get a different stanza for each cover, as there are something like nineteen official stanzas written by Leonard Cohen) or even a new tempo is good. When people just make cheap, sickening covers to cash in on an old classic, that's when the cover upsets me.

Jezzen 07-20-2011 02:16 PM

I used to be picky about finding original songs and stuff, but nowadays if I really like it, then I'll just enjoy it. If I happen to find the original through looking to buy an album or something like that, then yeah, I'll give it a listen.

If I had to choose one cover vs. original choice though, Alien Ant Farm did a terrible job trying to create their version of Smooth Criminal. Even the music video sucked in comparison.

regine 07-21-2011 11:35 PM

I both like original and cover...but most of the time some cover are better


like the cover of christina grimmie and sam tsui of just a dream...and the cover of ebony day of i love the way you like part 2 also the cover of paulina cerilla of solo..those are my favorite covers... :3 pretty much better

Saiyouri 07-23-2011 09:43 AM

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(。◕‿◕。) For me it all depends on who does the cover.
Like Total Eclipse of the Heart by
Nikki French. She did an amazing
job. I don't care for the original
of the song. It sucks. >.>;




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Kit Katy 08-05-2011 01:19 PM

For the most part, I find the originals to be better than covers. On some occasions though, I find a few covers that surpass the originals and I end up liking that cover band more.

Alice Cooper's a fine example. His song Poison is alright, but I like it a lot more when Groove Coverage made a cover for it.

Vivaria 09-23-2011 07:17 PM

I usually don't tend to like cover versions, because they never tend to do the original justice. Personally, I think Glee is the perfect example of why you should never cover another artists work, because they tend to kill everything they try to cover.

However, there is the odd cover version that catches me off guard and actually is something I like. 'Smooth Criminal' by Alien Ant Farm is a great cover, especially as Michael Jackson was such an influential person and had such a specific voice and style. That cover was turned into something new when AAF did it, and that was something I liked.

littl3chocobo 09-30-2011 09:56 AM

dude, tv generally does noone favors

MuseSick 10-05-2011 09:15 PM

I think one of the best cover bands I've ever herd would have to be Boyce Avenue.
Personally- my favorite is their cover of Every Teardrop Is a Waterfall, which is originally by Cold Play. Boyce Avenue just makes it ten times better.

That- and Ben Lee's Cover of Float on, which is originally sang by Modest Mouse, they take the upbeat song, which is lovely I admit, I adore the modest Mouse version, but some day's when you feel like quiet music, it's really superb!

Also- I've herd so many cover's of Cheap Trick's I want You To Want me, but I think the one by Letter's to Cleo is my favorite. It was played in the movie Ten Things I Hate About you. Now of course I love Cheap Trick, but at the time, I honestly couldn't find a good, solid version of it sung by Cheap Trick, so when I found the Letters to Cleo cover, I was stoked. :D

All great songs, both original's, AND covers.

Espy 10-05-2011 09:17 PM

Most Vocaloid songs have really, really good covers. But then, of course only I'd be interested >.>

Poggio 10-06-2011 02:53 AM

I must say, I am addicted to Glees cover of teenage dream the rest of the show can stuff it but that song <3. I also think that On the Rocks did a pretty good cover of lady gaga. It depends on the song and how it was altered. I have a friend that loathes Moulin Rouge for its covers of various songs and yet I love it. I've been looking for a guitar cover of Rhianna's please don't stop the music that I heard in the mall over the loud speaker. It was beautiful very melodic. I also like techno remixes and those are nothing but covers XD. I also enjoy Jim Strugges cover of Across the Universe.

Gabrielle 10-08-2011 03:52 PM

Bif Naked has done a few covers such as "Nothing Else Matters" and "We're Not Gonna Take It".
I prefer her versions over the originals.

Espy 10-08-2011 03:53 PM

I've been trying to cover a few songs; unfortunately I got sick XD

kyOMG 12-15-2011 09:21 PM

I looove Red Light King's cover of "Old Man' by Neil Young. The original is amazing, but the cover puts an awesome modern twist to it that I love.

Toxic Rainbow Kisses 01-27-2012 11:04 AM

The Beatles Cover of Top Note's Twist and shout.
Israel Kamakawiwo’ole's Cover of Judy Garland's Over the Rainbow.
Moulin Rouge's cover of LaBelle's Lady Marmalade.
Manson's Cover of Eurythmics's Sweet Dreams
Bowling For Soup's cover of Brittney Spears's Baby one more time.
Johnny Cash's Cover of Hurt.

Quiet Man Cometh 01-29-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabrielle (Post 928321)
Bif Naked has done a few covers such as "Nothing Else Matters" and "We're Not Gonna Take It".
I prefer her versions over the originals.

Not familiar with the first one but I can pretty much listen to either version interchangably. I think I lean slightly to Twisted Sister's version. Maybe it's the outfits. ;)

And, didn't know Cheap Trick did "I want you to want me." But then, I've heard a few version of that song and have no idea who actually wrote the thing. I only know Cheap Trick really from the soundtrack for Heavy Metal. "Reach Out" was the song I think, and there may have been another.

I was a little thrown for a loop when I heard Queen singing "Crazy Little Thing Called Love." I honestly thought that was Elvis.

Suzerain of Sheol 01-29-2012 12:21 AM

Scarborough Fair sounds like a whole different song when My Dying Bride covers it.

My mother gets so upset when she hears me listening to it, since she loves the original and thinks this version sounds like a funeral song. Guess which version I like? :p

Asami 01-30-2012 02:50 PM

i feel sometimes covers are better than originals. it also makes a certain song in a certain genre be transformed into different genres.
heres one of my favorite covers
Artist Vs Poet- Super Bass

toxxic 01-31-2012 01:27 AM


You Me At Six's cover of Starry Eyed by Ellie Goulding. It's the only way I can listen to the song.


Shiny 01-31-2012 01:36 AM

Peponi by the Piano Guys is a cover of Paradise by Coldplay.

I could listen to Peponi on loop for hours.

rararochester 02-02-2012 04:52 PM

Lollipop by little wayne covered by framing hanley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbUR0SRceD0&ob=av2e
but I'm really more of a fan of rock than rap any day so that's probably my big reason why. I'm also a huge fan of this video.

Quiet Man Cometh 02-02-2012 05:58 PM

"The Maple Leaf Forever" by Buble. :D.

I'm not all that fond of the guy, but I thought he did a pretty good job with that song. Was a national anthem contender from one of the World Wars, I think.

Apparenlty the closing ceremony for the 2010 Olympics didn't go over as well as it could because people apparently weren't sure if they were supposed to laugh or not. Floating moose!

kyza 02-14-2012 02:45 PM

i think only certain songs should be covered

Echo-chan713 02-14-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyza (Post 1069167)
i think only certain songs should be covered

Like what songs in your opinion?

Matt the Merciless 02-19-2012 02:11 PM

Mastodon's cover of ZZ Top's "Just Got Paid" is beyond amazing to me.

Fiyero 02-19-2012 02:32 PM

I very seldom like the covers more than the originals, but I definitely liked Amy Winehouse's version of 'Valerie' (originally by The Zutons) so much better than the original...and Florence + The Machine's covers of Beyonce's 'Halo' and of Robert Palmer's 'Addicted to Love'


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