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johnny 12-23-2010 02:00 PM

The act of writing.
 
Am I the only person here who has a problem getting started with a writing project?

I will plan the hell out of something - I just wrote a 7,000-word plot rundown and bios of the two main characters for a story I've been thinking about for a year now - but actually starting the story is a hurdle for me. It's baffling, since I love writing more than anything else in the world, but it's just so daunting to write those first sentences.

Does anyone else have this problem? Have you gotten over it? If so, how?

Sushi 01-06-2011 09:06 PM

I'm actually the opposite, it seems. I mean, at first, I might moan and groan for a little, but for the most part, I never really plan and jump right in. It's finishing that the hard part. lol

Jurinjo 01-07-2011 01:02 AM

I have that problem a lot! But no solution for you sadly. The reason this is such a hurdle for me is that after the initial fun of brainstorming and such I feel incapable of adequately capturing my vision. Thus...I scrap it. This is why I did not pursue a major in English. Although maybe I should consider the path of an editor?

Jenny Harper 01-07-2011 05:44 AM

I can never start, get through the middle, or start a project.

I have loads going right now, me and my wife run a two way fic between us and I need to get it done lol.

I also have a few of my own fics that I want to get done. I want to start one and maybe get it to publishing level. But that would need the words to flow onto the page. I can have a million ideas going through my head but not have it go onto the page or it sounds wrong.

I am very visual when I write but cannot draw. XD I fail lol.

johnny 01-08-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jurinjo (Post 388508)
I have that problem a lot! But no solution for you sadly. The reason this is such a hurdle for me is that after the initial fun of brainstorming and such I feel incapable of adequately capturing my vision. Thus...I scrap it. This is why I did not pursue a major in English. Although maybe I should consider the path of an editor?

Yeah, I think I have that problem, too.

Or I get bogged down with "Is this idea publishable?" or "Is this idea more publishable than the other one?"

Either way, it comes down to ideas and voices and whether I'm actually good or not.

I really should just learn to write, and worry about things like publishing, or proper structuring, later.

As for your English/Editor pondering: It's still generally a good idea to have at least a Bachelor's degree in English if you want to be an Editor. It's what I'm going to college for, actually.

Lost 01-08-2011 11:22 PM

Just start writing.
Somewhere;
It doesn't matter where you start. You can always add things to it either before or after what you've written. just start.
Maybe beginning with a point you had in your plot; if thats not where you actually want to start you can fill in more things before it when you think of them.

It's your story. it doesn't matter where the beginning or ending is. All that matters is you write it.

Batty 03-19-2011 01:54 AM

I ALWAYS have issues starting something off.

Normally, what I do to get out of that rut is write a few other scenes, first. Or I'll work backwards. I'll write how I want something to end, and then decide from there how I want it to start. Or I'll write a bunch of bullcrap to start off with, and work my way back to changing it after I've gotten a successful middle and ending.

Though lately, its been really hard for me to choke out ANYTHING at all. This is probably the worst writing block I've ever had. ><;

Gozed 03-29-2011 05:10 AM

I can plot out an entire story, but when I go to write it I'm already bored with it, since I know what happening, so I just want to get to the next part, and a story that has the potential to be 300 pages long ends up being 12.

Quiet Man Cometh 04-30-2011 07:46 PM

I can have problems at all stages of writing. It seems to depend on each individual piece. Some I can't start, some I can't end, and some I can't seem to find a middle for. Inspiration seems to be a problematic point for me. When I have a clear idea going, I am confident in what I'm writing. Otherwise I can think, search, edit, and tweek until the piece is hardly recognizable. One piece I'm working on now I erased entirely and started again because it was getting too cluttered for all the editing.


I write short pieces, and I find that when I have a lot of trouple getting an idea out, switching styles or mediums can help. I might start intending to write a prose piece and change it to a poem or piece of flash fiction if the idea would be better suited in that direction. I once started a poem that turned into one of my novel attempts. The most successful one so far actually.

As for how good someone's writing it, or how publishable it is, I find the only way to find out is just to try. I've sent out some pieces for publication and had acceptances and rejections, though more of the latter. On two occasions I was surprised by the poems the editor selected for their magazines. They were little poems I had tacked onto the submissions to round them out. The ones I expected to be accepted weren't commented on.

I've never actually taken any lessons or anything on creative writing. What I know comes from my reading and my literature degree. I might have an easier time actually plotting out storylines and such if I did have some classroom experience in creative writing.

CupcakeDolly 05-01-2011 02:20 AM

I always have trouble getting started, and when I finally do, I find that I haven't planned things out very well. I've tried several times to write out stories and stopped after a few chapters - at the most, four or five of them. I always think that I'll just go back and re-write, but I can never forge on ahead without a clear plot in my mind. It's frustrating to have so many ideas and not have the skill or technique to write them out.

Glitch 05-01-2011 10:08 PM

I tend to procrastinate writing but once I start I can usually keep a steady flow throughout the project. It's when I go back and read it later that I no longer am satisfied haha.

Quiet Man Cometh 05-01-2011 10:20 PM

A friend of mine is writing a novel series. He's edited one book in its entirety three times.

I find even if I don't know what to do with a piece, wiritng it down can at least give it a place so that it's not cluttering my head anymore but still retrievable if I decide to do something with it later. I do get moments now though, where I've started abandoning ideas and barely worked on pieces for the sake of streamlining what I've got so I can focus better on the pieces that are more meaningful to me.

Suzerain of Sheol 05-11-2011 10:14 AM

In the past few years, I seem to have developed an affinity for planning stories over actually writing them. At the moment, I have three different novels outlined in detail, I just... have no motivation to work on them. I'm six chapters into one, have a very rough full draft on another, and the third hasn't had a word written for it yet.

It seems like the older I get, the more difficult writing becomes for me. Granted, looking back, I can see definite improvement, but for some reason, it comes with a decreased desire to actually write. I suppose I'm just harder on myself now than when I was younger. I can't just let the ideas flow, I have to sit and tinker with each sentence until it's perfect.

I don't know if that was me you mentioned, Quiet, but the book I'm six chapters into at the moment I've written completely twice (with major alterations to the story each time) and I've made similar efforts, getting five or six chapters into a new version I think three other times. So, this is my... sixth draft at the moment. I've been developing the story since I was 9 or so (21 now) and while I finally have an idea of how I want to end up, I'm still not any closer to actually finishing it.

I'm a fairly linear writer, I don't jump around too much, though I have scenes from way later on in my various stories written out, only because they've struck me so powerfully I've had to write them without context, just so I don't forget them. I also take extensive notes, since I always seem to daydream about what happens later on than focus on what needs to written here and now in the story.

I took Creative Writing twice in High School, and twice in college (I actually have to leave for that in an hour), but I haven't learned anything from those classes. The environment is far too casual and the teachers/professors have always preferred to "explore creativity" than offer any useful criticism or advice.

Quiet Man Cometh 05-12-2011 07:59 AM

Actually no, I was referring to another with regard to the books.

I still have that chapter of yours sitting in my inbox waiting to be read. I suppose I could actually get around to doing it given the lack of other things I find for myself to do. Haven't even started on that broadside I was going to work on besides a handful of ideas that are fairly generic. I think I migth have to make some notes and just get my hands moving if I plan to make any progress at all. I still have a week or so before the deadline and it only needs to be 300 words or so.

Suzerain of Sheol 05-12-2011 12:46 PM

I... believe I haven't updated that any more since I sent it to you, which is kind of depressing. Maybe a critique would inspire me, who knows?

Glitch 05-19-2011 12:57 AM

I'm great at starting them, finishing is where I fail hard. :( I posted a story on here for people to help me write and ending but nobody did XD

Suzerain of Sheol 05-19-2011 01:01 AM

Just throwing this out there, but if anyone wants advice or a critique, I'd be happy to provide, as long as it isn't erotica or anything. This sub-forum is so slow and lonely, I'd love to see some more traffic here.

And I managed to write an entire chapter yesterday. It was euphoric. First time writing in over a month.

Quiet Man Cometh 05-19-2011 01:05 AM

Me too, that is, seeing more actiity around here. I'd offer critiques but I'm notoriously slow about getting around to them (ask Sheol about that :p). I do like to talk writing though, and otherwise play around with the topic.

Suzerain of Sheol 05-19-2011 01:14 AM

^She speaks the truth. She means well, though. ;)

Seriously, though, I have four creative writing classes under my belt and an English major to look forward to. Oh, and tons of free time to fill. I'll help anyone who asks. :)

Glitch 05-19-2011 01:40 AM

Well if you wouldn't mind please help me out on my short story! XD

Suzerain of Sheol 05-19-2011 01:42 AM

Sure, I'd be happy to. Is it posted here? Just point me in the right direction, and I'll see what I can do.

Glitch 05-19-2011 01:49 AM

It is in the writer's corner - it's the story I wrote for school I think i called it :3

Suzerain of Sheol 05-19-2011 01:53 AM

Oh, okay. Duh, was staring me right in the face.

I'm off to bed at the moment, but I'll give it a look tomorrow. :)

Anything in particular you want help/advice on?

Quiet Man Cometh 05-19-2011 02:44 AM

Has no creative writing courses but has a literature degree and a couple modest publications of the non-paying variety. Might not critique regularly here but I'm always happy to answer questions about writing or even English homework. :)

Suzerain of Sheol 05-19-2011 08:29 AM

Oh, go ahead, rub it in.

Yes, that's right people, I've never been published. Go on. Laugh at my ill-fortune.

:p

Zenella 05-19-2011 05:23 PM

I have this problem sometimes. It's not an all the time thing, because some stories are easier for me to write than others. My solution is just to write. Like...even if the first few sentences don't really make sense, I just write them. And then I sort them out when I get started.

I have a big problem with continuing something lol I'll get started on a project and be doing good for awhile but then I'll just stop. Not sure why but it gets on my nerves lol

Samuel 05-19-2011 05:27 PM

I do have this same problem.. Its always hard for me to get the first few sentences.. But once I do. I think they come out pretty great after all the thinking xD

Quiet Man Cometh 05-19-2011 10:58 PM

Nothing wrong with taking one's time, especially if it turns out better for the effort. I hang onto all of my bits and pieces because some day I might actually get around to putting them together.

And I'm not rubbing it in Sheol. You just don't send anything out :p.

Suzerain of Sheol 05-19-2011 11:03 PM

I don't know if this would apply to anyone else, but I predict that my productiveness at writing would increase exponentially if some knave were to go take a sledge hammer to my modem. Wasting time is just so much more... instantly gratifying than wracking my brain for the words I know are hiding in there somewhere but don't want to come out.

Hero 05-22-2011 02:32 PM

I'm terrible at starting them as well.
I have a plot but I just can't think how to start the story off
:c

Ginger 05-22-2011 05:11 PM

It is VERY hard for me to start writing a story. Mainly because I never know where to start, and sometimes finish. I am a picky writer. I have yet to overcome this obstacle myself.

Lioshika 05-22-2011 10:36 PM

Starting anything is hard. I wouldn't worry as much about the beginning yet. You could write a rough idea, and always edit it later. It's the nice thing about computers these days; don't like it, just edit and save as a new draft.


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