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Illusion 12-17-2015 02:49 PM

Star Wars Episode 7
 
Foreshame, no one else listed this.

I'm seeing it tonight! So much hype! My only expectations, be better then the recent trilogy.

Tohopekaliga 12-17-2015 02:53 PM

I'm going to go see it tomorrow...Tickets to it are a birthday gift to me. :D

I feel like Disney, when they want to, can do an excellent job with movies, so I have high hopes for this one.

Illusion 12-17-2015 05:15 PM

To me Disney are just a bunch of nerds who know what their doing.
I have a lot of friends with internships with Disney right now and they can confirm that. XD

I have a lot of faith with Disney and I know JJ Abrams work well so if I'm disapointed in anyway I'm sure I'll still get a laugh out of 3 hours of lens flare.

Tohopekaliga 12-17-2015 06:16 PM

And camera shake! Don't forget the camera shake!


I watched a Making Of video for his first Star Trek, and oh my god, that was hilarious. He had some dude with a hand spotlight waving it around for more lens flare, and he himself was drumming on the camera to make it shake a bit.

Ireland 12-17-2015 09:27 PM

I don't have any plans to see it anytime soon. Mainly because I want to know what my super Star Wars fan friends to tell me if it's worth going to see. After the last three movies, I'm a little wary.

Tohopekaliga 12-17-2015 09:28 PM

Well, the last three were controlled by George Lucas. This one is not. :P

Illusion 12-18-2015 03:22 AM

Just came back from seeing the film.

The first half was AMAZING. So much better then the prequels. But the 2nd half fucks up but not in the bad way, it takes the key plot points of the 4th and 5th episodes, give them a tweak or to, but it's literally them repeating the same movies over again.


Espy 12-18-2015 04:43 AM

I have surprisingly enough never actually seen any of the films. Scary, huh. I want to watch the first six before checking out Ep 7.

Awen Moonshine 12-18-2015 07:53 AM

Urgh... We probably won't get to see it until well after Christmas is over seeing as we'd have to find someone to take the little one while we go see it... I don't really know what to expect of this one, but so far I've only heard good things. I think I'll be happy with it no matter what but my partner will probably be more critical of it, he is a massive Star Wars fanboy... ^_^;;

Lawtan 12-18-2015 11:43 AM

Yeah...not likely to see this one for a while. *shrugs*

Glad that the first half was good, though you seem to be dwelling on the second half (or are trying not to spoil the first half)

Illusion 12-18-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawtan (Post 1678715)
Yeah...not likely to see this one for a while. *shrugs*

Glad that the first half was good, though you seem to be dwelling on the second half (or are trying not to spoil the first half)

Well... I'm trying to keep away from spoils, so describing the 2nd half is hard.

The first half introduced great characters, had great memorable scenes, and was truly a good start to a new trilogy. The whole second half was nostalgia pandering by doing the same things the other original series did where if you would compare this movie with the old ones the scenes are pretty much the same and your watching the same movie.

The weird thing about this movie though is that everyone is so used to George Lucas being a terrible writer and not understanding how to humanize characters that when you see this movie you feel alienated because all the characters are actually well written for once.

The second half still had it's own memorable scenes that didn't revolve around pandering to the original series. Most notably the final fight with Kylo Ren (The Darth Vader looking guy.) that was briefly shown in the trailers.

The second half still has it's own charm, humor, but the vast majority of it was just going "Oh this happened in episode of the franchise so let's do it again! Oh but with slight differences!"

Anyone hasn't seen any of the original movies or prequels, see this movie first so things come to a surprise. I'm pretty sure that most people know bits of detail about original trilogy's characters and plot and that's enough. At least then you don't have to feel like you already seen the same movie during the second half.

It's still a good B rank movie though. JJ Abrams did an amazing job starting off the new trilogy.

Salone 12-18-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Illusion (Post 1678777)
Well... I'm trying to keep away from spoils, so describing the 2nd half is hard.

It's called a spoiler tag. My god, if you're going to talk about ANYTHING in the movie, please us a spoiler tag.

EDIT: And throwing my two cents in. Obviously spoilers, do not click if you don't want things shattered for you.


Illusion 12-18-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Salone (Post 1678814)
It's called a spoiler tag. My god, if you're going to talk about ANYTHING in the movie, please us a spoiler tag.

Well I don't want to discuss the movie in a spoiler tag until more time has passed and more people have seen it.

So I will take about things as vague as possible to give people an idea of what it's like.

edit: Oh and you spoiler tag my post even though there was no spoils in it. Everything I mentioned was blatantly in the poster for the film and the in the trailers. (Hell the one thing I think you spoiled that part for was in the poster and something me and my classmates we're discussing weeks before the film came out. It's fair game.)

Salone 12-18-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Illusion (Post 1678822)
Well I don't want to discuss the movie in a spoiler tag until more time has passed and more people have seen it.

So I will take about things as vague as possible to give people an idea of what it's like.

Well, the offending passages have been fixed
and hit with the appropriate spoiler tags.

Illusion 12-18-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Salone (Post 1678830)
Well, the offending passages have been fixed
and hit with the appropriate spoiler tags.

The passage was information already given out prior the film which is why I talked about it. It's fair game. I could had talked about it prior to the movie's release as well and wouldn't had been spoiled tagged.

Salone 12-18-2015 02:45 PM

Believe it or not, not everyone does as much research about a film as possible before seeing it. Some people prefer staying completely in the dark up to the point of seeing the movie. I highly encourage you to use spoiler tags when discussing anything involving the characters or the plot.

Demonskid 12-18-2015 02:59 PM

Wether people look up the information or not, if the info was released prior to the film it's not a spoiler o3o,

I once was telling a friend about an anime, and so not to give her spoilers I just copied the summery and put it in quote tags.. they still considered what was in there spoilers even though it was the official summery o3o,

What people consider spoilers and what people don't will always be different.

That's all I'm going to say, and I'll be requesting if you guys could take the 'discussion' to PMs cause it looks like an argument from here ^^,

now onto the topic, I want to see the movie but I don't.. I'll wait for a while before watching it.

Illusion 12-18-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Salone (Post 1678814)



trystan830 12-18-2015 05:38 PM

i don't know any spoilers. i might see the movie either december 24 or 26.

that said, if you see what book i'm reading (in my sig) i know the movie is totally not the EU (extended universe). and i've been reading the forward timeline EU since 2011. i choose to believe that what's been published before Disney decided that most of the EU is the alternate timeline is still the EU, and it's the movie that's the alternate timeline.

Tohopekaliga 12-18-2015 05:49 PM

Movie definitely ignores the EU books. :P


I watched it today! Was very good. I enjoyed all of it. Some things were predictable, but that's okay. Doesn't make it bad.

trystan830 12-18-2015 06:13 PM

oh yes, i do know the movie ignores the books. in fact, now canon ignores the books. *sigh*

which is why i'm going to think of the movie as the alternate timeline. ;)

Illusion 12-18-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tohopekaliga (Post 1679119)
Movie definitely ignores the EU books. :P


I watched it today! Was very good. I enjoyed all of it. Some things were predictable, but that's okay. Doesn't make it bad.

It wasn't bad at all. But it was very cheap.

trystan830 12-18-2015 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Illusion (Post 1679330)
But it was very cheap.

that's another notch in the 'do i really want to see it?' side for me.... :( (along with 'it has nothing at all to do with the books' and 'the books are now the alternate 'verse.')

i think the only things on the plus side for me are 'it's star wars,' 'R2-D2' and 'harrison ford'. oh, and BB-8 is cute.

Illusion 12-18-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by trystan830 (Post 1679350)
that's another notch in the 'do i really want to see it?' side for me.... :( (along with 'it has nothing at all to do with the books' and 'the books are now the alternate 'verse.')

i think the only things on the plus side for me are 'it's star wars,' 'R2-D2' and 'harrison ford'. oh, and BB-8 is cute.

If you like Star Wars in anyway it's worth seeing. Like I said that first half. The second half is in no way bad, remember nostalgia pandering for better and for worse.

trystan830 12-18-2015 07:14 PM

hm, good points. maybe a matinee showing won't cost me my first born. (she has to go back to college in january anyway. XD )

Tohopekaliga 12-18-2015 07:24 PM

I think it is most definitely worth seeing. Good movie.

There's always little things wrong with movies. Nothing's ever perfect, but that shouldn't keep you from enjoying it, in my opinion.

trystan830 12-18-2015 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tohopekaliga (Post 1679429)
There's always little things wrong with movies. Nothing's ever perfect, but that shouldn't keep you from enjoying it, in my opinion.

this is very true.

thanks, Toho. =)

trystan830 12-25-2015 12:28 PM

ok, watched the movie on thursday. LOVED IT!

and it's not like the movie ignores the books.... the references are there, you just need to know what to look for.

if i posted comparisons (behind a cut, of course), who would understand them?

Quiet Man Cometh 12-31-2015 03:02 AM

I quite enjoyed it, getting the chance to go see it last weekend. Alas, I was the only one not wearing a Star Wars shirt among my group (I even checked the Disney Store nearby for something sufficiently geeky to wear) and the Kylo Ren 3D glasses were sold out. Poo.

Spoilered to prevent arguments or for those who want to be completely in the dark still:

Star Wars Episode 7 in one sentence:


I like new Darth. :D. Is voice who I think it is? It's not credited, but Jones wasn't credited in the original, either.

trystan830 12-31-2015 03:22 PM

i'll bite, who's the voice? i tried looking it up, but couldn't find anything other than the actor who plays Kylo Ren.

Quiet Man Cometh 01-02-2016 03:54 AM

I don't think "spoilers" are objectively defined. If it's something that someone who hasn't seen the movie/read the book might not want to hear, then it can be a spoiler whether or not it was made available prior to release. People intentionally search out info out of excitement and such, so I figure it's a personal judgement thing, not a "it was already there" thing.

On Kylo Ren: (This would be a spoiler to me because I was curious as to what he would sound like and wanted it to be in the moment rather than before hand. I didn't look up any character info, and didn't even know what anyone (besides Rey, Finn, and Chewie) were going to look like.)


trystan830 01-02-2016 11:25 AM

I didn't *want* to know much about the movie, I wasn't really sure if/when I'd even see it.

But, my daughters may go see it again today, and I'll float that name possibility by them, to see bwhat they think.

Spoilers, in general, are a touchy, subjective, subject to a LOT of people.

Den 01-05-2016 12:10 AM

I enjoyed seeing it. It gave me feels at certain points, and I wanted to hug certain characters... But I also felt that toward the end, there were several points they could have ended the film at and still had a complete story, with a good jumping-off point for the sequel.

Salone 01-05-2016 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Den (Post 1686221)
I enjoyed seeing it. It gave me feels at certain points, and I wanted to hug certain characters... But I also felt that toward the end, there were several points they could have ended the film at and still had a complete story, with a good jumping-off point for the sequel.

Oh aye, I agree with you. At the very least,

Den 01-05-2016 04:22 AM

Definitely. Or even a "Hello".

Awen Moonshine 01-05-2016 07:01 AM

We finally got to see it just before the new year! It was good and I enjoyed it for what it was, but it left both me and my partner with too many questions. :/

trystan830 01-05-2016 10:56 AM

the way it ended ensured that we'd all be back for Episode VIII.

actually, i'm going to be the odd one out and say that I liked the ending.

having spent the better part of the time since 2011 immersed the EU, i did like the movie, and i'll be there for Episodes 8 and 9.

Salone 01-06-2016 12:14 AM

Oh aye. It was still a decent ending. And I've already seen it 3 times because, eh, there's not much else going on here. I'm just glad that we're getting good Star Wars films again and I am much excite for Rogue One because maybe there'll be more Poe making wisecracks.

Quiet Man Cometh 01-06-2016 09:39 PM

Personally I like it that buddy didn't say anything at the end. I thought the gesture, and lack of a responding gesture, had more weight to it. Closure can be over-rated.:P

trystan830 01-06-2016 10:51 PM

i agree with you there, Quiet Man.


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