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Illusion 08-29-2014 02:58 PM

The NEW Nintendo 3DS; your thoughts?
 
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Nintendo has recently announced details on their new 3DS model, the NEW 3DS. The new Model introduces a new CPU to run new EXCLUSIVE N3DS games like the recently announced Xenoblade Chronicles Port, as well as running current and future 3DS games more smoothly. The N3DS has a new secondary analogy stick called the C stick located on the top right corner of the lower half of the device. As well has secondary triggers the ZL and ZR buttons that sit right next to the R and L triggers. The N3DS finally removes the ghosting from it's 3D hardware, and a overall better battery life.
The N3DS model is being priced around $160-170 (using Yen to Dollars conversion.) and the N3DS XL model will be priced around $190-$200.


So... I'm really torn between this, it's essentially a in betweener console generation handheld. With big AAA games being exclusive to the handheld is a really insulting to people who have bought the 3DS, but the cheap pricing tells another story when you could trade in your 3DS towards a N3DS you will most likely be paying $100 for the upgrade. Xenoblade is being called a "port" so it's not like Ocarina of Time which was completely remade to be played on the 3DS.

So on one side Nintendo is alienating and dividing it's audiences AGAIN with the N3DS, but on the flip-side we now have a device that can handle Wii graphically powered leveled games, that will also make current 3DS games run more smoothly, basically more opportunity for bigger games. And if you ever played Pokemon X and Y and play a team battle, or any sort of battle that had more then 2 Pokemon on screen at once. You know that the device could really use that boost in CPU. The Handheld supposedly removed Ghosting with the 3DS entirely, which was one of the biggest complaints about the 3D feature. AND we will be getting additional back triggers and analog stick which has been game developers main reason on why they weren't going to port over certain games. (Hence, even MORE opportunities for games to be made/ported over to the 3DS.)

But I'm really on a Stalemate on this handheld, I feel as though they should had waited a little longer for this device. The Device is much similar to the Gameboy Color, granted the Gameboy color came out NINE YEARS AFTER the Gameboy came out, and it was a complete overhaul of the game system rather than a simple update like the N3DS is. And the DSI had exclusive games as well, but none of them were as big or noteworthy as Xenoblade.

I'm planning on trading up for this Handheld mainly because I was looking into the 3DSXL in the first place, that and Xenoblade. :3

Your thoughts?

Taiki 08-30-2014 10:33 PM

I was kind of iffy if I wanted to get it right away but the fact that the normal sized one has customizable face plates has sold me on it. I want that feature SO BAD. There's only 38 different ones confirmed for Japan so far but still. I hope they come out with some Pokemon ones. I still would have to make the decision to get a black or a white one to match certain covers!

Lucid: 08-31-2014 12:23 AM

I thought this was one of those bad Illusion jokes at first. But the more I read about it, the more I realize that it's totally on track with everything Nintendo does with their handhelds. GameBoy to Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance to Gameboy Advance SP, DS to DSi, and now "New" 3DS. I just wish they were better at making the names clear that it's a new system that will have exclusive games. It's one of the (many) reasons that the WiiU didn't do well at all.

I don't think I will buy it unless there is an exclusive game that I just HAVE to have.

hyjin 08-31-2014 09:17 AM

Kind of approve and disapprove at the same time. Removes the bulk from the circle pad pro, but it's a mini analog. And exclusive games not to happy about bc it means we have to upgrade just to play those games.

Illusion 08-31-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucid: (Post 1638206)
I thought this was one of those bad Illusion jokes at first. But the more I read about it, the more I realize that it's totally on track with everything Nintendo does with their handhelds. GameBoy to Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance to Gameboy Advance SP, DS to DSi, and now "New" 3DS. I just wish they were better at making the names clear that it's a new system that will have exclusive games. It's one of the (many) reasons that the WiiU didn't do well at all.

I don't think I will buy it unless there is an exclusive game that I just HAVE to have.

You made me realize that I haven't had a terrible joke for a while. Thanks for reminding me! :D
Now time to play the waiting game....

Lucid: 09-01-2014 02:51 AM

Anytime, I love reading shocking thread titles only to see that you were the one who posted them. :P Keeps life interesting around here! And I honestly don't mean that in a sarcastic way. Bad Illusion joke threads are good for activity!

Illusion 09-01-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucid: (Post 1638255)
Anytime, I love reading shocking thread titles only to see that you were the one who posted them. :P Keeps life interesting around here! And I honestly don't mean that in a sarcastic way. Bad Illusion joke threads are good for activity!

So you thought the N3DS was a bad joke at first? I won't lie I sort of had the same thought.

I like wacky titles, makes people more inclined to read the content in the thread. That and I can be ridiculous beyond belief...

Chloe 09-02-2014 09:40 PM

Normally I am updated on the newest gameboy systems but I haven't heard of this one.. I use to own a 3DS XL but it was so huge.. I remember taking snapshots to show someone what a monster it was compared to the 3DS and even to the Gameboy Advance..



Overall, glancing at newer 3DS, I still like the XL due to the location of where the buttons are located for home, etc. And the graphics weren't that bad, I got rid of mine cause I was informed it wouldn't run American games on the British system and most of my games were bought in America, so why keep a game system that wouldn't do me any good in a few years time?

And I have to agree, Nintendo brought the 2DS out like last year, no? I never liked that system and I don't see me putting the funds out for a new 3DS when I have a PSP and an almost brand new Gameboy Advance that works perfectly fine.

Ashy 09-03-2014 08:08 AM

Ugh, I'll get it as long as it's not $350+ here

Illusion 09-03-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashy (Post 1638471)
Ugh, I'll get it as long as it's not $350+ here

You live in a country where video game prices are like 3 times the price then anywhere else in the world! (Granted Brazil has it bad as well..)

Asami 09-04-2014 09:06 PM

tbh i dont care im getting it no matter what
because im a handheld gaming nerd.
really happy for an upgrade and excited for customizable plates things
so like. hopefully people on etsy or anywhere will sell their own version and we can get a huge variety of what our new 3ds will look like :D
im hoping for madoka magica themed ones (more specifically mami)

Illusion 09-04-2014 09:32 PM

I really want a Monster Hunter themed case, a Super Smash Bros, or a Legend of Zelda case. <3

Demonskid 09-10-2014 09:02 AM

I don't have the money for it, and I'll be pissed if they make certain games that i like exclusive for that system. That's all I have to say about this. =p Someone get me one when it comes out. xD

Illusion 09-10-2014 11:40 PM

That's the downside of the N3DS, developers currently making games for the 3DS will make use of the extra power and buttons.
But on the upside, more developers will come in to make games for the 3DS BECAUSE of the extra power.

Either way it's a win win for people who upgrade to the darn thing, I'm going to upgrade for sure. Not just because of Xenoblade, but more so that I'm a huge Monster Hunter fan.

Yokuutsu 09-27-2014 02:31 AM

I don't like the idea. I bought the 3DS expecting a few more years than this to play nintendo's handheld.

See, companies will start abandoning the original 3DS for this new one when it doesn't have a new game and therefore is not a new generation technically, but they're making it one.

And like many others, I can't afford two of the same damn system. Hell, I almost didn't buy the 3DS period because the 3D shit gives me a headache, so it's just another DS for me, and I'm not buying a third DS...I can't find a job and the 3DS? Bought ti back in college with some of my refund due to Zelda remakes. I guess I'm leaving Nintendo altogether now...making another generation THREE YEARS later! Too early nintendo. I can't afford consoles that often.

Illusion 09-27-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Yokuutsu (Post 1639220)

this new one when it doesn't have a new game and therefore is not a new generation technically, but they're making it one.

Actually Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is a New 3DS exclusive. Soooooo..... Yeah.

And the system is coming out in 2015 in America, but will be out in October for Japan, and November for Australia. Were only getting it late because of Black Friday, and wanting to get rid of the rest of 3DS stock to the uninformed parents buying their kids a 3DS for Christmas.

Yokuutsu 09-27-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Illusion (Post 1639222)
Actually Xenoblade Chronicles 3D is a New 3DS exclusive. Soooooo..... Yeah.

And the system is coming out in 2015 in America, but will be out in October for Japan, and November for Australia. Were only getting it late because of Black Friday, and wanting to get rid of the rest of 3DS stock to the uninformed parents buying their kids a 3DS for Christmas.

Well, what I mean is until the Wii U...each new generation had a new name. Nintendo. Super Nintendo. N64. Gamecube. Wii. Each of them made it clear this is a new generation, but they were also spread out enough that you felt if you got the last generation, you didn't just waste your money on it. But this one is coming out too soon, also the way they're naming it, most people will probably assume this is just a new version like the DSXL and it won't matter....kind of how some people were thinking the WiiU was kind of like the DSXL except for the Wii, an upgrade, but the same system. Nintendo has lost me as a customer pretty much. Three years is too soon for a new generation that they're not calling a new generation. It's too soon for a new gen period, but this sounds like they're trying to deceive in some way. I just hope they keep making normal 3DS games for a long time and that the ones I'd like to see (like a Majora's Mask remake) will still be for 3DS or both, but probably not since the enw one can handle more.

Coda 09-29-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Yokuutsu (Post 1639220)
I don't like the idea. I bought the 3DS expecting a few more years than this to play nintendo's handheld.

See, companies will start abandoning the original 3DS for this new one when it doesn't have a new game and therefore is not a new generation technically, but they're making it one.

And like many others, I can't afford two of the same damn system. Hell, I almost didn't buy the 3DS period because the 3D shit gives me a headache, so it's just another DS for me, and I'm not buying a third DS...I can't find a job and the 3DS? Bought ti back in college with some of my refund due to Zelda remakes. I guess I'm leaving Nintendo altogether now...making another generation THREE YEARS later! Too early nintendo. I can't afford consoles that often.

I wouldn't expect there to be TOO many exclusives, honestly. There's a huge installed base of 3DS systems out there already, and publishers aren't going to jump ship and ignore those possible customers. Consider the fact that the DS was still getting new titles as recently as October 2013; the fact that the New 3DS will still play 3DS games means that the best market penetration will be for titles compatible with the classic 3DS.

The New 3DS looks like it's going to play out like the DSi to me. The DSi added hardware features to the DS, but not counting download-only DSiWare there were only FOUR DSi-exclusive titles ever released. There were a number of DSi-enhanced titles, though; Pokemon Black and White come to mind -- but these games worked just fine on the normal DS.

Taiki 02-09-2015 05:43 PM

I didn't realize that America was only getting the New 3DS XL and not the smaller one with interchangeable faceplates. I am so disappointed and probably won't even get one for a while if I do get one. I just don't like the XL size. I was so looking forward to it too. :C

Illusion 02-10-2015 01:49 AM

I really wanted the smaller one too... The face plstes, bright NES button scheme, smaller size, bigger screen then the regular new 3ds, and just. Everything. I'm happy they had the monster hunter new 3ds I was dwelling over since October available. So I'm excited for this Friday, and on Saturday I will be lighting my candles and spending some R and R with Majoras Mask 3ds and Monster Hunter 4U...

hyjin 02-10-2015 07:47 PM

unless there are a good amount of exclusives that i want im not getting any time soon.

MeghanB 02-11-2015 12:20 AM

I don't know, I get enough enjoyment out of my ds that I'd be tempted to upgrade if it weren't XL-only. The whole point of the ds for me is that it's small enough to stick in my purse or pocket and whip out whenever I have a few spare minutes. If it's not convenient to carry, why not just play PC games?? I suppose I'll be tempted if they come up with some really outstanding exclusive releases. But they'd have to be pretty dang amazing. Are they talking about releasing it in a smaller version eventually? And if so, why wait?

EDIT: WHAT?? Customizable faceplates?? Why don't we get those?? That's very cool. Stupid America, we never get the cool stuff. >:(

Chi 02-24-2015 04:31 PM

I'll get the new 3DS XL if they come out with a really awesome limited edition one, other than that I'm not getting one. I'm pretty disappointed in recent choices that Nintendo has been making. "Oh the XL is super popular in America, clearly they don't like the standard as much so we'll only sell them the XL." Yeah, thanks... Real cool of you... Maybe some of us wanted to change our themes and 3DS displays on the fly, yay...

My other issues with Nintendo was the Amiibos and some other stuff but I'll leave that out. Going back to the new system, I don't see a need to buy it yet. I'm fine with the regular 3DS XL I bought off Taiki a couple months back. xD;

hyjin 02-24-2015 11:20 PM

Don't forget chi to mention that Amiibos are limited supply which is also annoying

MeghanB 02-28-2015 01:41 AM

Amiibos leave a bad taste in my mouth from the start. "Hey, so you bought this cool game--now buy more stuff to unlock the features!" I like to just buy a game, and own it, and that's it. Not to run into obstacles or limits that can only be overcome by spending more money. Just let me buy the full game and then leave me alone to play it!

Illusion 03-01-2015 03:06 AM

Well I don't have a problem with the beginning of Amiibo so far. They made DLC for the games that you know wouldn't be there if it wasn't for Amiibo, or some small bonuses like extra gold in a game that it doesn't make too much of a difference to have and what not, and levels based off those amiibo's which you know wouldn't have happen if it wasn't for amiibo.

But I do have a problem with games coming out that require Amiibo for it's DLC, and the DLC is already on the disc since release. But if they have things like Fight the Mario Knight in Zelda Wii U when you use your Mario Amiibo! I'm cool with that, and cosmetics. You know those things wouldn't have appeared in game if it weren't for amiibo.

The only thing I think they changed was the Twilight Princess DLC pack for Hyrule Warriors, the Spinner weapon came out for Amiibo support, but after that pack came out. Which seems weird because it seems like a oddly specific weapon that would had came out of that pack, so my theory they took the spinner out of the pack and tied it with the Amiibo.
Now that's what I don't want to see in the future, content that was originally intended to be included in DLC, or the actual game being locked behind Amiibo. I want to see content that wasn't originally intended for the game thrown in, I want to be buying a whole game and then Amiibo throws in extra stuff that was added in afterwards.

We still don't know what Nintendo wants to do with them entirely, they have a master plan because they took off in America like crazy. But considering all these shortages and whatnot, those plans might be derailed. And they are quickly finding out how hard it is to keep these things in stock, let alone most people who buy them are collectors or scalpers. :/

Chi 03-09-2015 03:27 AM

I don't want to derail the topic of this thread but I'll give my two cents on Amiibo.
My biggest problem was with the first wave. They ran out of Villager, Marth and Wii Fit Trainer. So then it was rumored that they were discontinued then possibly coming back then moved onto cards? But recently Nintendo said they're bringing back Marth because of Code STEAM. No word on Villager or Wii Fit Trainer though. Then they somewhat split up wave 2 like one store would get a specific set of 3 then later in the month get the other 3. And with wave 3, lets create store exclusives then make a really small amount. Well I get that making them rare boosts the demand (somehow) it also pisses people off because then you get scalpers who ruin it for the collectors. THAT is my problem with Amiibo, and with the Majora Mask Limited/Collectors. :T (I wanted the Skull Kid statue but noooooo. sigh.)

But... back on the topic. I've actually considered importing a EU new 3DS just so I can have the standard instead of the XL. But then I have to import all my games too. I'm not sure. I'm going to have dismal hope that Nintendo will reconsider and bring us the standard too. (They won't. ;-; )

Illusion 03-09-2015 03:30 PM

Actually the Amiibo shortage was because of the port strike in the West for America. Every Amiibo starting at Wave 2 had to be flew in by a plane. The reason why they are so many Mario's and "commons" is because of imagery of just how bad it would look if Nintendo couldn't even keep their Mascot in stock and have 10,000 Diddy Kongs unsold.

Nintendo in the past few weeks actually have been shipping rare Amiibo's like Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Captain Falcon, and so on to Best Buy's recently, and have been sending representatives to Best Buy during their PAX event just this last weekend to sell those Rare Amiibos and a few Majoras Mask New 3DS's as well. They also just had a huge shipment come to their Nintendo store in New York and had a small event of selling those rare amiibo's or store exclusive ones like Meta Knight, Rosalina, Lucario, and Shulk on a first come first go basis having formed lines early at 7am in the morning.

The problem is scalpers, and the time needed to make these figures. Nintendo wants the figures to be high quality so a lot of parts of the Amiibo's are hand painted and put together to ensure higher quality. (Not everything, just the few key details on some Amiibos.) It takes 3-5 months to get a huge supply of Amiibo done because of this. So because it takes forever to restock, people realized how low of stock these figurines are and understood the demand for them and began to scalp a ton of them. Now stores have placed 1 Amiibo per customer policy to avoid acalping, but they still get around.

So that was just some of the numerous problems they've been having. In my eyes the best thing Nintendo could do is pay for more factories to make Amiibo's to keep up with demand. But the reason why they aren't is because they don't want to end up with 100 Peaches on store shelfs that won't sell because people already own Peach. (Which is already happening, which is why she costs a few dollars less.) But what's been helping fix this problem is that a ton of Amiibo enthusiasts have been customizing Amiibo's to sell for profit which help sell these excess Amiibo. ToysRus actually just made a deal with one of these Amiibo Customizers to sell customized Amiibo's at ToysRus stores.

So in the end Nintendo just needs to keep pumping these bad boys out and to start thinking that limited should be Limited Release, not Limited Quantity. Their current way of thinking of what limited should be is the cause of all their problems from now moving forward. :/


And in case your wondering how I know all this, I sold my life to Amiibo and I keep up with every little detail about it. *I'm still hunting down a darn Captain Falcon but no luck on stock getting anywhere near me.*

MeghanB 03-15-2015 12:19 PM

I'm so irritated about this. What's up with only giving the US the XL version?? I don't want the XL version, I want the same small version which is what makes the system so convenient in the first place. I would actually have considered getting the new 3ds if they weren't withholding the one I want. What's the reasoning for this--release the XL so the die-hard fans buy it, and then later release the smaller version in the hopes that some people will buy it twice? That's just shady.

Illusion 03-16-2015 06:01 PM

I still sort of want the smaller one because it has better buttons and dem face-plates.... >.>
Apparently in the United States instruction manual for Codename STEAM they list the New 3DS as a compatible device for the game alongside the new 3DSXL.

So.. I wonder if this is a sign that we might get it in the future.

MeghanB 03-22-2015 11:11 PM

It seems likely they'll release the regular version in the US. Surely I'm not the only one who doesn't like the XL.

Chi 03-23-2015 12:57 AM

The reason why Nintendo of America only released the XL version of the new 3DS is because the XL of the 3DS and DS sold really well. Whether the new 3DS standard will be released in the US has not been announced yet. Not to mention stores no longer sell the standard size of 3DSes anymore, they only sell the 3DS XL and the 2DS (Which I think was the dumbest idea. It's a tablet, the end). We can only hope that the standard size will eventually come to the US but knowing Nintendo of America, I kind of doubt it. D:

MeghanB 03-24-2015 10:26 PM

Really?? They don't sell the 3ds anymore??? That's...really surprising. I mean, it's the standard version of the console. The 2ds is for little kids who can't be trusted with 3d or a hinge, and the XL is...well, huge. That's so weird.

Chi 03-25-2015 01:18 AM

Yeah, they don't sell the standard size of 3DSes anymore. The only problem with the 2DS being flat is if it falls down on the screens, it's over. Plus they're huge, you have to hold it or carry a large bag with you.

Surprisingly the 3DS XL I have fits in my back pocket and the edges are softer but I still want the smaller size. I don't need huge screens. :< And what I mean by the edges are softer, if I played my 3DS for too long it used to hurt my palms, the edges were hard to me. But the XL has softer edges so it doesn't hurt my hands.

I ALSO WANT THE REPLACEABLE BACK PLATES THAT ONLY COME ON THE STANDARD SIZE. D:<

MeghanB 03-25-2015 11:19 PM

Huh. I have a friend who just got one, wonder where? Well, maybe he got a refurbished one or something. Yeah, I'm sticking with my small size. If they want me to upgrade they're gonna have to introduce the regular size in the US. And I want the plates too!!!

Chi 03-26-2015 11:17 PM

You can likely buy the standard size 3DSes if it's a used system or it's a refurb. What I meant was they're not making anymore standard sizes, it's all XLs, most places don't stock the standard-size anymore.

I actually bought the special Majora's Mask new 3DS XL but I haven't opened it yet. I'm still holding out too. If enough time passes, I may just sell it since it'll be considered a collector's item. But if decent games (besides Xenoblade Chronicles) start coming out, I'm gonna open it.

Kitty Paine 10-27-2015 01:48 AM

The 3D is definitely improved. Can't say O notice too much difference in loading times. I don't care for the dynamic brightness. But the possibly of porting Wii games intrigues me.

Coda 10-27-2015 01:14 PM

Having finally gotten a New 3DS for myself, I do have to say that the head detection makes a HUGE difference for 3D play.

You can turn the dynamic brightness off, IIRC.

Appalachia 10-27-2015 01:47 PM

It's definitely on my 'to buy list'. Part of me feels like it's a waste of money (you already have a 3DS Appalachia, just wait until the next upgrade) but the other (bigger) part of me looks at the new features and places another few dollars in the video game jar.

Hero 10-27-2015 02:49 PM

I'm with Coda, the tracking is so much better and with larger games, it does run a lot quicker.
It always took a while on my old 3ds to close games I had running up or just switch to the home menu real quick to check the time. The new 3ds does it almost instantly and hey, it can read amiibos now so that's always cool


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