2014 Yearly Discussion Thread
 

Hey everyone! I need your help in deciding what to do with 2014's Yearlies!

As stated in the announcement, we do not have resources to make a new set of Yearlies and I don't think adding more rune items to the market is a good idea at this time. The options we on the staff have come up with to offer to you guys are:

1. No yearlies for 2014.
2. Recolors of the current Yearlies at a slightly lower cost. I'm going with 40 runes, but that is negotiable.
3. Recolors of 2013 Monthlies (one from each month from January to September 2013). They would be at a higher price than they were when released during those months, but a lower price than what the current Yearlies are. Again, I'm going with 40 runes, but that is negotiable.

Now before anything, I would like to explain why these were chosen: I believe that the Yearlies and Monthlies from 2013 may be too rare because of the slowness of the site over the passed year. I would like to give you guys another opportunity to purchase these items to bump up their circulation and combat any future artificial inflation. This will not be a regular thing, and I won't do it if you, the users, do not want it to happen.

I would like to hear what you think about this issue. You may suggest alternatives if you'd like, but keep in mind that these are just some options that we came up with. Please voice your opinion whether it be for or against the specific options, but do not attack anyone else for their view.

Thank you. I hope that we can come up with a solution that works for everyone!

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EDIT 11/22/13: After a few days of discussion we have come up with an addition option that seems more fitting.
Also: 30 runes seems to be the most popular price at this point - Nex

Personally, I would vote for recolours of the previous yearlies as a separate item from the originals. That way, the original colours still retain some rarity value for those that care about it, but the items themselves are available to a new crowd. Of course, the chance that I'm actually going to buy runes is pretty low right now, for my part. That might change.

I'm against recolors in general, but then again....you're offering recolors of current items, not re-releasing all the items from forever ago.

My one thought on the monthlies is the fact of the aurum ones (or am I getting things confused? I'm tired so I could be off in space)...the recolors would be 40 runes if you did them...I would be against the aurum ones costing any runes....because they're a recolor of an item that technically (I guess) wasn't meant to generate revenue.

But it isn't like I'm going to throw a bitch-fit if they do cost runes. Can't even remember at the moment how many runes are to a dollar. So...yeah.

The recolors will be separate items. The current color palettes would be discontinued and different colors would be replacing them as a new item.

I had thought of the conflict with recoloring the Monthlies regarding the Rune ones and Aurum ones. I wouldn't be opposed to only doing the Rune ones if the majority of users want recolored Monthlies over Yearlies.

A poll with monthlies and yearlies that could be recolored would be nice, because really a mix of this years yearlies & the monthlies would be preferable. Would really have to see what color schemes could be done though.

Things that would be hard to recolor
Wicked Abomination
Hounds of Erebus
Socordia
Wysavra (BG mostly)

Things that I would love more colors of
Aloros
Aeronautic Funk
Enfield Fragment (The ears mostly)

Looking at the list it isn't a long one and if you were to offer recolors I would want to reach outside of the 2013 pool for monthlies that are well loved and would benefit from more color choices. Autumn Fin being a top one in my mind along with other monthlies that were a market place hit with limited item coloring.

we should copper everything

/useless sleep-deprived not-input

Honestly doesn't bother me any. From my entire time on Tirsphee, I've only purchased one or two sets of yearlies. They just cost too much, imo.

Lowering them is nice, but even so 40 runes is $4.00 and why pay that much for previous year yearlies even at different colors? Maybe create a thread to determine suggestions for present/past yearlies to see if the members want to or not.

No.. No.... NO.... HELL NO!!!
This would defeat the purpose of rare and unique. Monthlies need to retain their rarity. That is why we paid for them.

*Meek head poking in*
Hmm...last time I tried to post it said I wasn't allowed...
Umm...when I get the chance, I have new design ideas I am drawing up...
You probably don't want them as I am just a basic drawer/writer...

The same can be said for yearlies, and if you aren't interested in paying 50 runes for yearlies, do you think a whole lot of people would pay 40 runes for re-coloured monthlies?

As said, the old colour sets would be retired so while the item would be re-released, the original colour scheme would still retain it's rarity.

I'm rather indifferent really, but for the sake of argument I would like to see something offered as a yearlie, even if it's only one or two items.

I missed these lists last time, probably because of your ninja editing skillz.

None of the ones you listed would be difficult to recolor, actually. Wicked would just have to go out of conventional color choices, and Wys might need some, hrm, extra inspiration, but the other two would be pretty easy to dance around.

I would love to dip into Aloros again, too. An especially gorgeous item that could always use more love.

This would be the thread for that discussion, I believe. And as for your reaction on rereleasing Monthlies, that is the same exact thing we would be doing for Yearlies, so it's important we hear thoughts like yours before we move forward. Remember, if you, or any other users, have alternative suggestions, we ARE open to hear them.

If you're interested in designing for us, we would be happy to see what you have to offer. I believe we have item suggestion threads floating around somewhere. Alternatively, you can always send in an application to become an artist to me.

No yearlies? I'm ok with that actually....

Recolors of current Yearlies? THIS IS VERY PENDING IN MY HEAD. I mean if they will be out all year, and the colors are different enough I suppose they would count as their own items. But I wouldn't focus too heavily on them, maybe a mixture of 1-3 new items then 3-6 recolors? Time constraints I know, but not every yearly would look good recolored.
Pricing? Depends, are we buying 1 color variation or multiple like we normally do? If it's 1 color variation then a $3 price point sounds more reasonable then a $4-5 price point.

Recolors of Monthlies? Yes and no. Be very strict about these, monthly recolors should be released on occasion and not released oh frilly nilly. Recolors can hurt the value of a lot of items, focusing on yearlies is one thing, but also Monthlies is another. Have polls of and tally what one or two monthlies people would like to buy recolored, then release a few of them during a event. (Also distributing these in Event Forum games will motivate a lot of people to participate to try and win them.) But again, only on occasion.

yearly recolors are something I'd love to see.
A lot of the rune items always come in odd color combos so it's hard for me to work with some of them.

I think the point is to decide on something that will be offered all year, not just during an event or special occasion. That needs to be taken into account. Re-coloured monthlies would effectively become the 2014 yearlies.

I will say here that I'm happy with the idea of only two rune monthlies and the egg item offered for aurum. I understand the work load issues and I'm happy that there will still be special aurum items offered, even if they aren't every month.

I was giving suggestions? I honestly have little to no suggestions for the yearlies because I rarely buy them so therefore, don't really care for them. ^-^;

I just did? ._.

It will depend on the color and the item for me.
Especially since not every thing works in the most popular color palettes.

Are you going to have the 2013 yearlies out until the end of December? That might be a good idea so that you have enough time to get the new items ready.

Perhaps you could have a selection of recolors of the most popular and/or most useful monthlies and yearlies for the 2014 selections. You might even make "new" items from combining recolors of selected popular poses from monthlies and yearlies into something different.

I think recolors of 2013 monthlies would be best :3 I don't think yearlies should be recolored just yet.

Suggestions are fine. You just sounded rather vehement about re-releasing the monthlies, is all.

Negotiating prices is also what I want to see as part of this discussion so thank you for bringing it up. If popular demand shows they should cost 30 Runes instead of 40, I'm not against that. I just want them higher than the usual Monthlies and lower than the current Yearlies. So 30 or 40 works.

Yes, the current Yearlies will be available until the end of December. That idea does sound interesting. I'm not sure how well some items will look combined though. xD

I think you should put up a small poll/thread to see what color combos people like the most and want to see.

My vote is for the recolored yearlies (despite agreeing Aloros would look amazing with some other colors and really wanting to see that one haha)
Mostly because these are my favorite set of yearlies we've ever had and I would love them in other colors, just to have even more options
but of course if the choice is something else I wouldn't mind - I'd hate to see no option for a yearlie item at all but if that's what happens, that's what happens

Personally I'm torn between the Yearlies and Monthlies recolor options. I feel like maybe the best option would be putting all the items (all Rune Monthlies & current Yearlies) to a vote and picking the 9 or 10 most voted for but I feel like mixing Yearlies and Monthlies may be confusing. I dunno... they're all such pretty items!

But but Nexxy we wish to give you work...

I'm very sad to hear this, especially the part about there no longer being monthly Aurum DIs >.<. I always though those contributed a lot as an Aurum sink (but, then again, I might very well be the only one who always spent almost all of my Aurum whenever a new one came along ^^;).

Still, no Aurum monthly items is better than no DIs at all, that and the site does need money to run :3. The only thing I'd like to know right now would be if the December DIs will have an Arum one as well, just so I know if I should keep saving my Aurum or just try to buy some more event items I've missed and/or DIs ^^;. Still, this is not that important right now.

I think a poll would be for the best to decide what DIs will get a recolor for the month. Maybe you could recolor 1 monthly and 1 yearly every month until you run out of yearlies to recolor?

The one thing I'm not sure about is whether you should add the Aurum DIs to the poll or not but I don't think most people here would have a problem with you re-releasing them as recolors for Runes.

Another thing I'd like to inquire about is about the Anka Eggs, will these also feature recolors of past popular items and if so will they also have a poll. I'd actually like to see something like this as well due to the Anka Eggs being (from what I've heard) a "bit" similar to chance items/RIGs so re-releasing recolors of former Anka Egg items would help place more items into circulation.

I can understand why people would rather not have more re-releases though >.>.

Still, I hope Trisphee gets back on it's feet soon, I'd hate it for another site which's avatars/items I really like to close TT.TT, I'm still sad about Crysandrea not coming back T.T.

i think a mix-bag of understated and interesting poses from monthlies and yearlies would be nice, of course i mean legitimately interesting things like the aloros hands, the leviathan's jem, and other notable pieces(nothing like recoloring shoes or small bits of jewelry, that is coping out)

Is this a challenge, Ilu? :p-glance:
cause i accept.

Well wait a moment, what if they did them in sets?
Jewelry
Hair
Shoes
Body mods
Ect?

Would that work?
you'll get just what you want in theory.


Also, How hard would it be to do recolors of the Crane game items and rotate those into the game? I've wanted a few of those items in different colors.

No recolors please. Not at all. And hell no to 40 runes for re-released older monthlies with new colors.

I would like to see at least 3-4 yearlies for 2014 with 6 different color options for each. I'd still pay $5 for that. I just got a job and can afford to donate again. Please don't skip out on yearlies this year... or any year for that matter. It will really make me lose hope for the site and I won't want to donate. I hate to be so blunt but this is how I really feel.

The Anka Egg RIG isn't itself changing. It will be released once every 3 months instead of 2 and will cost Aurum, other than that, the type of items it contains will be the same. :]

Oops, didn't mean to miss your other question, there will not be an Aurum monthly item next month. Only 2 Rune ones.

As some others have stated, the 40 Rune price tag seems to be too high. Because of this I will most likely lower it to 30 Runes if that is the route that we take with recolors.

I would love to release new yearlies, even 3-4 of them but Trisphee simply does not have anyone to actually make them. I for the most part will be pixeling all of the Monthlies as well as most other items besides maybe some commons from now on by myself. The only way that would be possible is if they weren't released for months from now, even then there is no guarantee. If I squeezed 1 in a month that'd take me until about April to release them.


What about a combination?
3 "funbag" items of poses from 2013 items that could use 6 additional colors and 3 new items with 6 colors? All of which wouldn't be released until about March. I'm not saying this is officially what we're doing, just a suggestion based on feedback so far from this thread.

I didn't find your post offensive. You're just stating your opinion like everyone else. xD So thank you for the feedback. And thank you for the welcome! I hope that we can all together get the site back on track.

It's okay, I knew what I was getting into when I took on this role. xD The only thing that sucks about trying to find more artists is the matter of paying them. I will be doing the brunt of the pixel work until the site gets back on track so that we can financially hire more artists. Luckily for me I have other awesome staff members that can help with recoloring, designs, and stuff like that so it's not as bad as it could be.

Thanks for your suggestions, everything will be taken into consideration!