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Demonskid 10-12-2012 04:24 PM

Charizard is considered a dragon.
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Charizard is a very dragon-like Pokémon.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...ok%C3%A9mon%29
-w- his offical types are fire/flying but he is considered a dragon. That and they had him in the dragon fronteir decks of the cards which consisted of all pokemon considered dragons.

and for Gyarados .. straight from bulbapedia
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Gyarados is a large dragon Pokémon, resembling dragons seen in Chinese mythology.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...ok%C3%A9mon%29

Just because their types are this and this doesn't make them non dragons

More Proof

Dragon Master Lance's Pokemon
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/th...Adventures.png
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...os_%28VS_98%29
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...rd_%28VS_97%29

Mika 10-12-2012 09:33 PM

They resemble dragons, but they aren't dragons. They aren't dragon types, and they don't have the stats. MOST dragons are pseudolegendaries. Salamence and Dragonite for example.

Lance has three Dragonites. The only reason he had gyarados and aerodactyl is because in the original 150? There's only one dragon type, and that's the dratini line. No other pokemon from the 150 originals is a true dragon. Gyarados could learn dragon moves, but only pokemon with dragon types are true dragons.

Damies 10-13-2012 07:06 AM

lol endless debate about dragons xD

I decided to use genesect in my party... as well as victini... they have good typings for my purposes. ; 0;

Demonskid 10-13-2012 10:19 AM

Types are just what power they mainly use.
Considering is what they were based off of.

and I said that they are considered. which is why Lance used them.

and I also said just because their type is this and this doesn't mean that they aren't considered dragons.

Also Gen 1 and Gen 2 there was no such thing as Dragon TYPE. There was Psycic, Water, Rock, Fire, Normal/Special, Fighting, Poison, Electric, and Grass. Another reason why Charizard and Gyarados used to be considered Dragons.


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Prior to Generation IV, where moves are designated physical or special based on the move itself rather than its type, all Dragon-type moves were special.

Illusion 10-13-2012 03:33 PM

Just destroyed the elite four. TIME TO ENJOY EVERYTHING THE GAME HAS TO OFFER! :D

Demonskid 10-13-2012 03:36 PM

I'm poking around the 3rd gym trying to get my pokemon black to sync to dream world ono

Mika 10-13-2012 07:50 PM

.... In gen 1 and 2 there is dragon TYPE. Dratini line is dragon type. I know. I grew up playing it. I know my copies of red and blue inside and out. I have no idea where you got that information. Not from playing the game. Dratini and Dragonair were single typed dragon, where dragonite is dragon and flying.

None of those pokemon are considered a dragon in any aspect beyond appearance. They don't even learn dragon type moves naturally. Charizard and Aerodactyl learn it by TM, gyarados does learn it naturally. Even then, Charizard and Aerodactyl don't even get it for super-effective hit, since Dragon rage is a fixed damage move. For all extensive purpose to use either as a "Dragon" pokemon is absolutely useless. Pseudodragon maybe, due to the appearance alone. At least Gyarados gets Twister, but twister wasn't released till Gen 2.

The flying pokemon that Lance use are only there because they learn dragon moves. Be it naturally or TM. (Aerodactyl learns dragon rage from TM.) Charizard wasn't given to him for the fact that it's a starter pokemon and for some reason or another Gamefreak deemed it best not to give Gym Leaders or Elite Four any starter pokemon or their evolutionary lines.

Ritsuka 10-13-2012 07:54 PM

I have yet to own this copy. Hopefully this next paycheck I'll be able to buy it. ^^

Just a thought. The original 150? More like the original 153? Ho-oh was seen in episode 1 and Togepi came later on in the season. Plus, there's Mew in the bunch. XD

Lucid: 10-13-2012 07:55 PM

Inari, that quote has nothing to do with the dragon type's existence. Dragon type existed in Gen 1. That quote means that dragon-type moves used to use the special stat in the damage calculation, along with psychic, water, fire, grass, et cetera. Ghost, Fighting, Normal, Poison, et cetera used the attack stat.

I don't agree that Gyarados and Charizard are dragons. Just because Bulbapedia describes them as looking like dragons doesn't mean anything. Arcanine is a "legendary pokemon" according to early pokedex entries, because he's based on a legend. But that doesn't make him a legendary pokemon at all, just like Gyarados being based on Chinese dragons does not make him a dragon pokemon.

Mika 10-13-2012 07:58 PM

Games came out before the show. Pokemon yellow the sprites were changed to look more like the show, due to complaint. If you look at red and blue a lot of pokemon don't really look like how you expect.
If you want to get technical, it's 151. Mew being the 151st.

When the show came out, gen 2 was already being produced, it just wasn't released.

Mika 10-13-2012 08:00 PM

Lucid: Exactly!! Ninetales would be a legendary too, by that definition.

Neither Ninetales or Arcanine qualify even for pseudolegendary status -- which the only qualifier for such is to have stat numbers that equate to that of base stats of legendaries.

Ritsuka 10-13-2012 08:00 PM

Mika;
It was just a thing I saw on twitter. I thought it was funny. The games pawn the anime series! :D

Mika 10-13-2012 08:08 PM

Oh another thing I forgot: Flint has a steelix, driftblim and a lopunny. Neither of those pokemon are considered fire types because of this.

This is only for Diamond and Pearl. In plat they change his team.

So the reasoning behind them being considered dragons because Lance has them is really not quite sound.

Demonskid 10-14-2012 10:50 AM

OuO I caught Thundrus on PokeRadar x3 So sending it to my Black 2 game <3

Damies 10-15-2012 01:27 AM

And thanks to working on evolving and leveling my weaker pokemon my Genesect is way over powered now. xD

Edit: alsoI wish I had a 3DS to use that radar thingy ; 0;

Merlin 10-16-2012 01:30 AM

I intend on sending all of my adult pokes from White to White 2. I also plan to use my Emerald version to get Registeel. (If that'll work) To obtain Regigigas. ^^;

Natsunaine 10-19-2012 09:29 AM

Once again i have caught up with all the games and beat them all x3 YAY for japan emus!! *looks over at ds* now to do it on the english version

Illusion 10-19-2012 09:33 PM

Man... I still haven't scratched everything this game has to offer after you beated the elite four..
I caught all the legendaries, and got up to level 8 in Black Tower..... About it...

I still need to go through the Pokemon World Tour, finish the tower, make Pokemon movies, climb twist mountain and the thing below it because I forgot to... Catch landerous in my dream radar (I haven't played dream radar for a week because I play my game mostly at school and last time the idiots at my school were freaking out saying that I'm taking pictures of them when I was trying to hit clouds... ._.") I still need to go back on the ship to rebattle whats his face, beat cynthia, see all 300 unova pokemon in the unova pokedex, get the airplane ticket to go to the nature preserve, get the free dream world eevee, breed billions of dream world eevee's, train my pokemon's IV's and EV's, make join avenue level 10 and all my shops level 10, find someone with white 2 to catch the ice golem and steel, and more chizz that I can't think of right now....

THANK THE LORDS THAT THERE ISN'T A BATTLE FRONTIER IN THIS GAME OR I WOULD HAVE PUT MY LIFE INTO THIS GAME!

Merlin 10-19-2012 10:33 PM

It definitely has a lot to offer, and it rather expands upon what Black and White innovated, (More triple battles, fully animated poke sprites, etc.) However, I thought it was rather short lived when I beat the elite four. . . Like, oh you saved the whoooooooooole~ world, but you still have to beat the elite four in order to be considered good. Like the Elite 4 was just thrown into the story. Still. I have very few complaints in this game, and I feel rather bad for giving my rival a name that isn't nice. . . as was tradition with my games.

Illusion 10-19-2012 10:46 PM

https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/1..._Tj-GsgdA2.jpg

My life currently in a nutshell, just it's Pokemon Black 2 not white 2 ;D

Damies 10-20-2012 10:18 PM

I fail at the PWT thingy.. I FAAAAAAIL! ; 0;

Illusion 10-20-2012 10:54 PM

I still haven't bothered to go through it yet.... I'm waiting until I beat Black Tower, and possibly White Tree if I find someone with White 2 and is willing to change keys with me...

Damies 10-21-2012 05:43 AM

Man, I need to buy a copy of Black 2 just so I can to the version trade stuffs.... cuz I don't know ANYONE with the game. My one friend who will get it probably won't have it for a few months yet, and she lives 150 miles away. :/

Demonskid 10-21-2012 10:34 AM

Dark I have it if you need certain pokemon I can try to get them for you. :3

My friend codes are in the Trainer thread in the posting laboratory. ^^,

Damies 10-21-2012 12:12 PM

Once I finish figuring out what I need I will get back to ya. xD

Demonskid 10-21-2012 12:33 PM

^-^ I'll be here.

Damies 10-21-2012 04:44 PM

So before I go all trade crazy I wanna work on some of the medals... such as the beating the elite four with monotype teams... >:3

Suggestions on team structures?

Demonskid 10-23-2012 11:24 AM

i never worry about team structure xD I just use what I think is fun :3

Damies 10-24-2012 02:05 AM

When I am doing a regular team I go for what I like but for an all fire team or all water etc. I want teams that will pack massive punches....

Demonskid 10-24-2012 03:30 PM

I just go with what i feel is my favorite for the day/game

right now i have charizard, lucario, heracross, altaria, golem, and dratini. xD i might switch dratini out with gyarados after it evolves =w=

Damies 10-26-2012 12:10 AM

Gyarados is the best water type EVAR!

Lucid: 10-26-2012 02:51 PM

;n; I don't like Gyarados. I like Omastar.

Damies 10-28-2012 06:11 AM

I guess I mostly like gyarados for it's looks... and the fact that is was my deadly beast buddy in HG. xD

Aaand I need a tepig in my White 2.... I can;t find one on the GTS for decent trade for the life of me... stupid people and their impossible requests. >:C

Katame Shiraga 11-11-2012 10:05 PM

GTS requests are always impossible. I was once playing White and I went onto the GTS for no friggin' clue why and I saw, like, fifteen people wanted lvl. 1 Reshirams and Zekroms. I'm like "=.= Oh, God. These people are idiots."

Lucid: 11-12-2012 11:32 AM

It's not as stupid as you may think. When Diamond and Pearl came out, I read about a glitch where you could clone your pokemon using the GTS. Because you have to actually put your precious pokemon up for trade, however, one tip was to ask for impossible trades in order to not have your pokemon swiped away while you're trying to set it up. Just saying.

Rosekitten 11-12-2012 06:21 PM

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...__by_Smidy.gif
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...eaves2-1-1.gif

Have both games >w< Kano decided he wanted to play so we could trade or battle or what not. So I play White 2 and he plays Black 2. I oddly never finished Black so ... but so far I am enjoying White 2 >w> though i had to trade my shiny Mareep over from Black <3 Couldn't help myself Dx

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...ves2-1-1-1.gif

Katame Shiraga 11-14-2012 06:45 PM

I have both White 2 and Black 2. I've already beaten White 2, but not Black 2 because that's going to be for my brother when he finally beats my Black. Oh, has anyone here ever gotten the Shiny Suicune, Shiny Raikou, or Shiny Entei event thing at Gamestop so you could get a Zoroark in Black/White? I did it for both Entei and Suicune...I think...might've been Raikou and Suicune. All I know is that I only managed to get two of 'em, and one of them was Suicune for sure.


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