anyone XD i want to get loads of art for pog and honey

lol my art isnt great to do...

XD I love drawing and such.

I just have to work on my couples and such.

But I need a bit more practice.

i actually think your art is fine, it is not 50k art but it is not bad art, you did not steal any part of it and you definatly try~<3

have you thought about making a set of bases for it? draw a picture outline, make edits and try and do up drawings off your templates

Who me?

I have never tried bases, because I actually draw my art, then take a picture of it, outline it on the computer and then color it. I couldn't have bases pre-made and then try and draw on the computer. I only have a laptop. No mouse or anything. So it takes a bit to do. I'm better at tracing on the computer.

sweetheart that /is/ basework XD

Still, I don't understand what you are suggesting to me.

I've only been drawing for 5 weeks now.

*walks back in*
good evening all

one sec, i can show you what i mean dear

Okay. ^.^
I'm probably better with visual learning anyways to understand.

Evening Hyjin. XD

I dont know you refer to madam, but my name is the Doctor

*hisses*

Don't call me madam, sir!

i do apologize but your hair threw me off for a second

Only looking at the hair...

What? Only girls can have long hair?

no but were i am from men usually have relatively short hair

this is the base i made;
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...psde5eebd4.png

these are a couple of the arts i have made with them;
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...psa894ec30.png
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps79cc2aa5.png

i have a couple outlines and i just make edits to them or use other lines i have worked on

they are plain templates and are easy to edit into something else and because /i/ made it i dont have to worry about legal issues(personally i wont buy from anyone who uses trace-bases)

Where are you from? Seriously...

Men of all eras have had long hair. Though men with long hair were more of the men with poorness and no money to get it cut.

Ah, I see what you mean by single pieces, though couples, I tend to have heads bumping, or not long enough arms, etc. That's why I have problems with them.

actually it is the opposite dear, longer hair is harder to maintain and difficult to work with so short hair is low class and up until the fifties(and even then only really in the americas for a while after) was a sign you could not afford nice hair

couples are exactly the same thing dear

I am from England cant you tell form my accent?

Ah, got my history messed up then.

England, please... I don't see your accent, or you would see my English accent. XD

Well, my accent is crossed between England and French, yet it is easy to change to a regular Canadian accent for those to understand. lol

Plus I read everything with an english accent so your speaking exactly like everyone else. lol

I can't really get couples and people have told me to look at couples and still I do them, yet their heads over lap and I can't get it right. Then I put one behind the other, but some how the one I put behind the other ends up coming in the front, just the head is behind the other head.

then make a singe and copy it, paste and flip so you ave mirror images then edit them until they each look a little different

So what you are saying... Draw out a single, put it on the computer, outline it, then copy and paste, then flip it. Then print it out and then trace it on paper and then draw the rest and then put it on the computer and finish the rest like that?

no, i am saying draw the rough, scan it, copy and put a mirror next to it and either edit on the comp or print and edit on the paper but keep a general template so you can have a guideline to work with

it does not have to be complicated at /all/ it can just be a fuzzy squiggle as long as /you/ can understand it

I don't think I am getting it at all... I'm sorry.
The only thing I use as a guild right now is what I see in normal.

The way you are explaining it to me is that I draw the clothes and things on the computer and I'm sorry, I don't do that.

This is how I do things.

First draw out on paper

Then outline.

Finally, go and make pretty


So how you are explaining it makes no sense to me with this mirror thing.

that is not even remotely close to what i am talking about vxv;; i dont know how to explain it, you dont actually make sketches you go right to the finished line art and just draw the line art a couple times which is kinda strange to me

more like this; http://kalaalog.com/wp-content/uploa...ad-2-rough.png

Your link doesn't work...

How you say, not making sketches... That's how I draw, because I have no tablet and no mouse to use but my finger on the laptop mouse pad, so that's how I draw line art. It is very difficult to do without sketches. I have tried. I need the visual thing to follow on the computer so I have to draw everything out.

no i mean instead of a general body template (just the shape no faces hair clothes shading nothing just the outline) you draw the entire picture all at once, that makes it hard if you start with just an outline you can much more easily draw two matching bodies and if you save this outline you can reuse it for future arts as a guide for size and shape

does sweetie have a deviantart?

Wow... That totally confused me right there... I have to say I have only started drawing for 5 weeks. I think all of this template, outline is confusing me. Especially with this whole. "...that makes it hard if you start with just an outline..." Okay, so basically throw everything away and don't use outline. "...easily draw two matching bodies and if you save this outline..." Then your saying have the outline there.

English is my native language, but right now, this english is confusing me to no end.

Deviantart? You mean a DA? I randomly signed up for one, like a few years ago, though I never use it. It's all too confusing. If your wanting to link me to a picture, that's fine.

http://kibzy.deviantart.com/art/Chib...rial-313583298

i am talking about that very first image, that is a rough sketch and what i am talking about you making, do you understand?

a more refined version is a template
http://tenchibaka.deviantart.com/art...s-Jr-333953527

that would be the one on the far right, it can easily be edited to many poses and contains no distinct features

flipping would be when you go into ms pain and cut out your picture, and paste it right next to the original so you have two, you can either manually edit it to match the first or if you want them mirroring you can flip it horizontally. make a little more sense?

I don't make rough sketches like that I showed you my rough sketches, but okay.
Still as you say this copy/paste job... That is the hard thing for me to understand as then I can't edit it, and it would be an art of two of the exact same thing I have drawn, because it's on the computer so trying to make a couple of two different people is out of the question.

I think I figured out what you are telling me to do is to make just the outlines and go off those. But that is not how I do things. I figured out putting a head, then drawing the rest down to go with the outfit they are going to wear.

What you are saying is that you want me to draw out just and outline, then do this flip and have them side by side, which won't help in the first place, because then the outline and what I draw are two totally different things.

I think I'll just stick to what I am doing already till I figure it out on my own. Easy, simple, not so hard to try and read to get a visual out of it. If I'm not watching what you are explaining, your just wasting time I figure now. I am so confused by all this talk. I should just give up art. I have only been drawing for 5 weeks, first time I ever really picked up a pencil since my accident. Which is probably why I can't learn without watching.

i am sorry dear, maybe i can show you live later but i am so sick right now i have been in bed for three days and only got up for pottybreaks foo and one art that i had to emergency draw ^^;


but you should keep working on your art, it is good to practice no matter what

Oh, you don't need to do a live for me. But that is nice of you to offer. ^.^

Awe, I didn't realize you were sick, dear. I'm sorry.

it is fine, i have been doing poorly for about three weeks now XD

Awe, that's not good. I hope you've been to the doctor and it's nothing to serious.

XD this is /normal/ i am rather sickly as a general rule

Oh.I see. Well, at least get better. Especially to do a lillte bit more.