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hyjin 03-16-2013 11:46 PM

mehhh i cant with you distracting me

Law 03-16-2013 11:47 PM

Get naked, get in the shower, get clean, and then get back here so I can snuggle with you and play League. D:<

hyjin 03-16-2013 11:50 PM

ok i will after this post

Law 03-16-2013 11:52 PM

Alright. Now hurry it up since you're finally getting in.

hyjin 03-17-2013 12:04 AM

so very clean

Law 03-17-2013 09:54 AM

Good being clean is the goal.

hyjin 03-17-2013 10:09 AM

Yep it was... but that game was noobish

Law 03-17-2013 11:00 AM

HAha I forgot all about that match. I was owning up top.

hyjin 03-17-2013 11:01 AM

mf didnt even know how to 1 hit... or even to attack when i flipped lulu or tristana

Law 03-17-2013 11:32 AM

Haha 1 hit? You mean last hit? I don't know I had fun either way I guess. Singed apparently counters Jax, so that Singed must have sucked. Even though I didn't know you could be bad at Singed.

Lucid: 03-17-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Law (Post 1525399)
She has a passive her basic attacks, and spells reduce the cooldown on her Mantras. She also has that new form of shield when she uses it with a mantra is does dmg like it did before but also shields all nearby allies too. Her tether also heals her now while mantra is active, and will root targets when it's broken. Not to mention her nice AoE slow skillshot that detonates for extra dmg. He only has like one passive technically. It's also kind of like a crappy Anivia passive because those little slimes die easy, but it's cell division. He divides on attacks which can be picked up for health, and on death he divided into 4 which will try to pack it to res him. It's only technically one thing.

I also like how you get the free Traditional Karma skin if you own her before launch.

Meeeh I feel like the mantra cooldown lowering should be a part of the mantra skill itself. Graves Quickdraw has a similar passive but it is part of the E skill itself, it's not Graves's passive skill. Ryze's passive lowers the cooldowns of ALL his skills, not just his ultimate. I feel like Karma got jipped in that regard. Perhaps I'm jumping the gun, but unless Mantra cooldown is short enough to use multiple times in a teamfight or engagement if you're actively using spells and attacking, it seems weak to only have one charge. The final numbers may change my mind but I'm not terribly impressed. However, I do think that her QWE abilities are improved, and I am glad that they made a Traditional Karma skin that Karma players can have for free. I hate the new look of Karma so I will probably always play Traditional skin.

Zac's passive is definitely two passives. Blobs that break off on spell hits and heal you is a passive. Blob-style Anivia passive is another passive. I'm sure they're both weaker than they could be if he only did one thing, but it's definitely two different mechanics.

Renata 03-18-2013 12:24 PM

The people on reddit are saying hes extrwmely weak and undesicive on the sort of build that hes supposed to go with and one of the rioters said they were looking into some minor changes to make him feel less underwhelming and so that you dont feel like you never want to use an ability since they were all health percentage cost.

Law 03-18-2013 06:40 PM

For one you always have had 2 mantras as Karma period. They charge by themselves, and she could store two. Now she has to ability to generate another in the fight too though. Also his passive is all about splitting, so I see it as one because all he is doing is splitting his cells.

Lucid: 03-18-2013 08:24 PM

They took away one mantra charge on the rework. Now you can't use two mantra spells right in a row. :(

hyjin 03-18-2013 11:57 PM

So i finally got rid of 32bit on my tower for 64bit... bc 32 limited how much memory i could use... now i have access to all 16Gb of memory

Law 03-19-2013 03:58 PM

Hehe did you not know 32 bit limits you to umm I think 4gb maybe 8gb?

Lucid: 03-19-2013 05:36 PM

Here's the link to the Reddit AMA about Karma if anyone's interested. I'm starting to feel a bit better about the changes for now.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege..._relaunch_ama/

hyjin 03-19-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Law (Post 1527546)
Hehe did you not know 32 bit limits you to umm I think 4gb maybe 8gb?

its actually less than 4

Hermes 03-20-2013 03:59 PM

I need Headhunter Nidalee so freaking bad ;~; I'm gonna sell my left arm for it if I have to!

Law 03-20-2013 04:00 PM

Why do you want headhunter so bad?

Renata 03-20-2013 04:26 PM

why not? a skins a skin and most skins are pretty boss.

Hermes 03-20-2013 04:37 PM

Because I love Nidalee, and I've been complaining that all of her skins are terrible, and this one is not only based on the Predatotr (We all knew that, right..?) but it's kinda cyber-punkish ;w;

Law 03-20-2013 06:40 PM

I like my Nidalee leopard skin, and the french maid as well as halloween and snow bunny look nice too. I just bought the headhunter one. The cat form looks buff. xD

Hermes 03-20-2013 10:42 PM

Out of all the ones available, Headhunter is the only one I like even a little bit ;~; And I'm a goood Nid

What do you guys think of Lich Bane on her? I'm a little on the fence, I usually prefer to get Rylai's and Rabadon's first

Alpha 03-21-2013 12:45 PM

Honestly, couldn't say. Never played Nida before. I don't tend to do AP champs. I either do awesome with them or suck utterly....no middle ground. Might have to give her a try at one point when she's free again.

Gah....so want to get Aether Wing skin for Kayle right now...or at least her Battleborn skin. Tempted to try and get it....or maybe try to snag a few other champs.

Sooo...my list of "wanted champions" is steadily growing.....curse you expensive champions! *shakes fist at*

Question: For AP champions, is it worth it at all to worry about Spell Vamp and/or any kind of AD/AS at all? Or strictly AP and items that add slowing or burn effects for spells?

Hermes 03-21-2013 12:54 PM

With AP champions you focus solely on ability power and utility, you never ever work with AD. This is not counting hybrid champions such as Akali and Jax.

A sample AP build that works for just about any mage:

Liandry's Torment, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Rabadon's Deathcap, Will of the Ancients, Seraph's Embrace, <Your choice of boots>


I also like Rod of Ages and Hextech Gunblade a lot, but I mostly play people like Nidalee who actually enjoy some basic attacks.

When I build my Orianna, a more mana-hungry mage, my build looks more like:
Seraph's Embrace, Rod of Ages, Liandry's Torment, Rabadon's Deathcap, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Athene's Unholy Grail.


The core items for most AP champions are: Rabadon's, Rylai's, Liandry's. The rest is all interchangeable situationally.

Alpha 03-21-2013 01:03 PM

Hm, okay. I guess it would be a good idea to go for Rod of Ages earlier on to make sure by the time later game hits it is fully charged.

I figured Rabadon's was a pretty core one with the high AP boost and the 30% of AP added in.

Thanks Hermes! I actually had a build pretty similar to that when I played Ahri last, and managed to do pretty good despite a Nida with me top lane that ran from most fights.

*shrugs* I guess I'm just better with AD based champs with some life steal and attack speed built in. Definitely enjoying Nocturne....heh heh heh....

Hermes 03-21-2013 01:32 PM

My Ahri build is usually Will of the Ancients, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Seraph's Embrace, Rabadon's Deathcap, Deathfire Grasp, Athene's Unholy Grail

I <3 Grail XD

Law 03-21-2013 08:51 PM

Nid is viable as AD btw.

hyjin 03-21-2013 09:22 PM

quick someone play wiff me

Alpha 03-21-2013 09:30 PM

Sorry hyjin, I'm spending some time with family. Good luck though!

Hermes 03-21-2013 09:35 PM

Nid is INCREDIBLY viable as AD. Her cat form makes AD so flipping happy, and she feels like tristana: The sheer utility of her abilities combined with her range make AD perfectly viable.

Lol hyjin go practice beating Barrier ;D


Also guys I love Vladimir. I built him like this:

Spirit Visage, Will of the Ancients, Spirit of the Spectral Wraith, Warmog's, Hextech Revolver, Sorcerer's Shoes. (I planned on finishing the revolver into Gunblade, but never got the chance)

I'm sure that isn't the OPTIMAL build, but it makes him nigh unkillable at 18

Law 03-22-2013 12:55 PM

Hextech gunblade is a tad useless on Vlad. It's great for champs like akali, kat and jax because the ad and lifesteal can benefit them still. However it has no bonus for vladimir, and the gold is better spent on something else.

Try Rylai's, Wota, Spirit Visage, Sorc Shoes, Liandray's Torment, and a Rabadon's Deathcap. The ability power gives you extra health because his passive. Liandray's gives your spells a burn and since you have AoE dmg it's amazing since it's no longer weakened for being AoE. The Rylai's slows them for double burn. Your ult amplifies the damage, and the burn. Spirit Visage gives some tankiness, and better self healing from WotA. You also get some magic pen from shoes and torment.

Hermes 03-22-2013 01:18 PM

Will try that. Again, my build was not optimal at all xD It's a full Spell Vamp build =P

Alpha 03-25-2013 01:13 AM

I always love being a Yi who backdoors to save the team.....on that note, IP save up go!

Lucid: 03-25-2013 01:19 PM

I think my husband's ideal Vladimir build has a Warmog's in it somewhere because with Vlad's passive, 1000 health = 25 AP for free, and my husband plays him top and gets in the middle of the fight to get as much damage off as possible. But I can't remember which of those items Law mentioned he doesn't get... >.> They're all very solid items on Vlad. Maybe he leaves out the Deathcap. I just think that with Vlad's range being so short, he needs that extra 1000 health to survive a fight.

Hermes 03-25-2013 01:45 PM

Most of my builds involve Warmog's, I just love it haha

Yay for maining Nidalee these days. She's just so diverse!

I played Akali and Zed both for the first time yesterday, on a friend's account. I didn't care for Zed much, but he seems like he could be a lot of fun for some people, and he's hits like a truck. Akali was amazing, I love her, and her ult is so fun it actually made me giggle like a child.

Renata 03-25-2013 02:57 PM

Zeds been seeing alot of competitive play lately. and how about that visual upgrade fr trundle as well as changing his lore up some i believe. on top of that the rework for the Aram mode and most likely the release of Lisandra when Aram mode comes out.

hyjin 03-25-2013 04:33 PM

TODAY I SHALL PLAY LEAGUE... once i get my dads bike crank on ebay

Law 03-25-2013 04:52 PM

Bike crank?


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